Looks like Apache Lounge is de-emphasizing VC10 even more, planning to drop it all together perhaps: https://www.apachelounge.com/viewtopic.php?t=7451 Now has VC14 and VC11 as only builds on main downloads page, but you can find VC10 there still with a search. -- Michael A. Grady IAM Architect, Unicon, Inc.