Joining up Shibboleth, AD and ADFS

Dave Perry Dave.Perry at hull-college.ac.uk
Wed Jul 20 07:20:41 EDT 2016


This question might have been asked before, but I can't find the exact scenario/wording from a bit of a search. Bear with me while I put the full context here, so what we want to achieve hopefully makes sense.

The ingredients for this:

-          AD for desktop signin

-          ADFS allowing login to Office 365. Currently SSOs when on an AD-domain PC/laptop

-          Moodle logins (web based login form off site to AD, AD SSO onsite)

-          Shibboleth v3 (uses our AD DCs as its LDAP source) for eResources (and eventually Google Apps again)

We are looking to have it so that when you sign into one thing, you can SSO into everything on AND offsite.
Onsite, AD wins for most things currently - I have pointed out that to SSO into shibboleth I will need to pin our AD superadmin down for a while (and that is pretty much impossible anytime soon unless our director overrules his current workload).

My boss would like it so that you sign into Moodle with Shibboleth, so that when you click a link to an eResource off site then you're authenticated against the IdP already - that is fine, I have set it up an SP successfully on a test site. But she doesn't want to lose SSO from the AD desktop, and understands we can't do both AD and Shibboleth into moodle (its own limitation in the underlying authentication code).

Offsite, I guess the smoothest thing for the end user would be for our IdP to use ADFS as its backing source (so every time you hit the IdP, if there is no session it takes you to ADFS). Has anyone achieved this, including the attribute pulling?
>From what I've read, you can add sites as an ADFS Application. Currently we have ADFS v2 onsite, but an external company is moving us to v3 at some point in the coming months and there is talk of Azure AD being thrown into that pot.

I'd have left asking this a little longer, but I have noticed an Office 365 integration for moodle (written by Microsoft themselves), and as my director is wanting to use Office 365 more I thought it was worth exploring the big picture a bit more. So directing people to login offsite via ADFS but then Shibboleth being able to piggy back on that (whether you're on or off site).


TIA,
Dave

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Dave Perry
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