IdP with MCB Redirecting to SP on failed login!
IAM David Bantz
dabantz at alaska.edu
Fri Apr 3 21:09:09 EDT 2015
Thanks,
I set and verified a finite retry limit of 99; I don't expect any real user
to reach 99 (though I did to test) but won't allow some bot to endlessly
submit and trigger authN attempts.
On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Paul Hethmon <
paul.hethmon at clareitysecurity.com> wrote:
> That's it. A value of -1 should allow unlimited retries, at least in
> the MCB logic, individual auth modules could do there own thing.
>
> Just be aware that logic had a bug at one point. GitHub may have an
> issue listed about it.
>
> Paul
>
>
> (Please enjoy the autocorrect features if this phone)
>
> On Apr 3, 2015, at 2:45 PM, IAM David Bantz <dabantz at alaska.edu> wrote:
>
> Thanks!
>
> I find the following in multi-context-broker.xml - is that the place to
> change? Does a value of -1 create an unsafe vulnerability?
>
> <!--
>
> The maximum number of failures allowed a user before returning a
> SAML failure to the
>
> relying party. Must be specified according to schema definition.
> Set to a value of -1
>
> to allow an unlimited number of login failures.
>
> -->
>
> <maxFailures>3</maxFailures>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Paul Hethmon <
> paul.hethmon at clareitysecurity.com> wrote:
>
>> There's an option for max fails in the MCB config. Set it to a higher
>> value or disable it. I think there was a bug in some versions where the
>> disabled option was not honored but setting it to 999 would definitely
>> work.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>> (Please enjoy the autocorrect features if this phone)
>>
>> On Apr 3, 2015, at 2:21 PM, IAM David Bantz <dabantz at alaska.edu> wrote:
>>
>> If a user fails authN at the IdP three times, our IdP is redirecting
>> the browser to the SP.
>>
>> That's generally not helpful, leaving the user on a generic SP error
>> page.
>>
>> Shibboleth IdP 2.4 with MCB.
>>
>> I'm seeing the following suspicious entries in the IdP log:
>>
>> 10:10:57.478 - DEBUG
>> [edu.internet2.middleware.assurance.mcb.authn.provider.MCBLoginServlet:207]
>> - submodule process login returned [false]
>>
>> 10:10:57.478 - DEBUG
>> [edu.internet2.middleware.assurance.mcb.authn.provider.MCBLoginServlet:312]
>> - Current failed login count = [3]
>>
>> 10:10:57.478 - DEBUG
>> [edu.internet2.middleware.assurance.mcb.authn.provider.MCBLoginServlet:156]
>> - Authentication result = [true]
>>
>> 10:10:57.520 - INFO [Shibboleth-Access:73] -
>> 20150403T181057Z|172.20.233.117|idp.alaska.edu
>> :443|/profile/SAML2/Redirect/SSO|
>>
>> What's going on??
>>
>> David Bantz
>>
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