SWF / MVC write-up

[Brent Putman]

On 9/5/13 10:04 AM, Cantor, Scott wrote:
>> The other is that apparently Java Serializable is viewed by many as a
>> Bad Thing(tm). Chad was very opposed to implementing Serializable on
>> that basis as well. I was skeptical of this reason initially. However, I
>> saw Joshua Bloch (notable designer of many things in the Java platform
>> itself and respected software engineer) speak once at OSCON about
>> language/platform features that have been added to Java since the
>> initial language design; his opinion was that Serializable was the
>> single worst mistake they had made (up to and including Java 7 stuff).
> I defer to people with more experience on it. My issues with it have to do
> with the complex issues around object versioning, which I don't really
> understand very well, but those don't apply all that much to transitory
> uses of serialization. It is why I don't like the idea of using binary
> serialization for longer term needs.
>
> But I am well aware that lots of people don't like Java Serialization, and
> as a non-native to the language, I tend to take that seriously. I don't
> find it compelling that lots of frameworks expect it, because people
> writing frameworks are going to do what's easy for them.

Marvin commented off-list that he was interested enough in Bloch's talk
that he wanted to find it.  Unfortunately the slides from the actual
OSCON 2011 talk "The Evolution of Java: Past, Present, and Future"
weren't posted, and it wasn't recorded.

However, he did give the same talk apparently at the Devoxx conference
later that year.  There is a nice recording of it here [1], about an
hour long, with slides side-by-side.  Haven't seen this site before, but
it's cool that the talk is actually indexed into chapters so you can
just jump right to part you want.  The Serializable part starts at
section marker 9:53.

I also found a written summary [2].  The Serializable part states the
conclusion:
> Conclusion: arguably the worst feature ever added. *Failure*
**
Interestingly, he also gives a Failure to generics and autoboxing.



[1]  http://parleys.com/play/514892290364bc17fc56c508
[2] 
http://nosoftskills.com/2011/11/devoxx-2011-java-past-present-and-future/

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