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<p class="MsoNormal">We would only add the applications that are of university wide importance to the portal. The specific departmental ones ,no we would probably not add those as to not clutter the portal. People already have those bookmarked if they use
them they can continue to do it that way.<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">users <users-bounces@shibboleth.net> on behalf of Lohr, Donald A - lohrda via users <users@shibboleth.net><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 11:01 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>users@shibboleth.net <users@shibboleth.net><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Lohr, Donald A - lohrda <lohrda@jmu.edu><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: Okta's MFA and Shibboleth<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:Helvetica">Yes, I know what you mention about Okta and InCommon.<br>
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For the sake of argument, let's say you were keeping Shibboleth/InCommon and proxying with Shibboleth.<br>
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Will all of the applications that exist in the InCommon metadata have an icon in your Okta portal?<br>
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Thanks,<br>
Don</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 4/4/23 11:45 AM, Herron, Joel D wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yes, we are. We will be using a third party integration with Okta to manage the two federations that we are part of. Until we implement that solution we will keep inCommon in shibboleth. There is no built-in way to manage a federation in
Okta your either keeping shibboleth and proxying or purchasing a third party product to manage it for you.<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">users <a href="mailto:users-bounces@shibboleth.net">
<users-bounces@shibboleth.net></a> on behalf of Lohr, Donald A - lohrda via users
<a href="mailto:users@shibboleth.net"><users@shibboleth.net></a><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 10:33 AM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:users@shibboleth.net">users@shibboleth.net</a> <a href="mailto:users@shibboleth.net">
<users@shibboleth.net></a><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Lohr, Donald A - lohrda <a href="mailto:lohrda@jmu.edu"><lohrda@jmu.edu></a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: Okta's MFA and Shibboleth</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:Helvetica">Let's remove the proxying part of the conversation for a moment.<br>
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Are you an InCommon Federation member?<br>
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Thanks,<br>
Don</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 4/4/23 11:28 AM, Herron, Joel D wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Don,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">We are in the process of setting up okta. I can tell you that I have successfully proxied the IDP back to Okta and then you can use whatever MFA method you want to inside of Okta. We are still using Duo through Okta and it is working just
fine. I will also heavily agree with Scott Okta’s SAML implementation is trash.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">All I had to do was follow the proxy to another IDP guide and it was an easy setup.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Joel Herron<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">DevOps Engineer<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">ICIT<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">UW-Whitewater <o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">users <a href="mailto:users-bounces@shibboleth.net">
<users-bounces@shibboleth.net></a> on behalf of Lohr, Donald A - lohrda via users
<a href="mailto:users@shibboleth.net"><users@shibboleth.net></a><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 10:21 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Cantor, Scott <a href="mailto:cantor.2@osu.edu"><cantor.2@osu.edu></a>, Shib Users
<a href="mailto:users@shibboleth.net"><users@shibboleth.net></a><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Lohr, Donald A - lohrda <a href="mailto:lohrda@jmu.edu"><lohrda@jmu.edu></a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: Okta's MFA and Shibboleth</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:Helvetica">Basically my question is: Can a Shibboleth IdP be configured to use the Okta vendor's MFA product?<br>
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Thanks,<br>
Don</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 4/4/23 11:00 AM, Cantor, Scott wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<pre>What may be true however is that you may not have the ability to control which applications get MFA'd by Okta, given that they very likely do not support the actual proxying semantics of SAML or have the ability to consume the RequesterID element to influence behavior.<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>So if you didn't mean all or nothing re: MFA, then you may be correct.<o:p></o:p></pre>
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