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2019-03-12:  nRDymCKsSIoc5pbKdmm72swbqzQ=</span></p>

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2019-05-06:  w/yKZiuBopKxX6iCO1Pza3BuUbw=</span></p>

</div><div><br></div><div>Since eduPersonTargetedID is a triple tuple the above isn't the entire thing, but I'm expecting that it's just the third tuple we're seeing here and that's the part that's changing.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div>-Bob<br></div></div><div><br></div><div class="ydp32a359b8signature"><div>--<br>Bob Lamothe<br>robert_lamothe@yahoo.com<br>KB1BOB<br>603-918-6336<br><br></div></div></div>
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                    On Tuesday, May 7, 2019, 12:34:16 PM EDT, Ray Bon <rbon@uvic.ca> wrote:
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<div>Are we really talking about a password change being coordinated with the change of another attribute?</div>
<div>Or is the user just updating their info (and password happens to be one of the items) and the chosen sourceAttribute is not really that persistent?</div>
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<div class="yiv1027581269yqt4271899800" id="yiv1027581269yqt77618"><div>On Tue, 2019-05-07 at 16:13 +0000, Yeargan, Yancey wrote:</div>
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Take a look at the conf/saml-nameid.properties file, specifically the property "idp.persistentId.sourceAttribute". If that AD attribute changes as a result of a password change, then the value of eduPersonTargetedID will also change.
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<div class="yiv1027581269">University of North Texas System</div>
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<div class="yiv1027581269">On May 7, 2019, at 10:56 AM, Robert Lamothe <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv1027581269" ymailto="mailto:robert_lamothe@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:robert_lamothe@yahoo.com">robert_lamothe@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class="yiv1027581269">    For a few months I've had an SP complaining that they need to reset the accounts of our users on a periodic basis.  We've been monitoring this for some time and have identified that after one of our users is forced to change their AD password
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<div class="yiv1027581269">    We've further identified that when a user changes their AD password it changes their eduPersonTargetedID value.  By resetting the account they clear the value set in eduPersonTargetedID and allows a new one to be set.</div>
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<div class="yiv1027581269">    When I read up on this attribute I find that it's made up of a triple tuple, one of which is generated.  It's also supposed to be persistent but it's persistence doesn't have to be lifetime.</div>
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<div class="yiv1027581269">    Can anyone help me understand why this attribute might change after an AD password change?</div>
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<div class="yiv1027581269">Thanks</div>
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