<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Joel,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I didn’t write it, but the flavor I get from that vignette is just salty. The umami is about right here, but I think it’s more an explanation of why JAAS is not a natural and obvious language for this: it was never designed for the use cases it’s come to address in reality.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It was a primary configuration file format in IdPv2, but people shouldn’t use it today unless they need the features, which I suspect to be the ultimate font of all that. Those features are why I still think it’s by far the easiest way to do what you’d like to do, and it’s been widely used for the purpose in deployment.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I wouldn’t hesitate on this basis.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Take care,</div><div class="">Nate.</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 30, 2016, at 16:00, Joel Levin <<a href="mailto:joel.aaron.levin@gmail.com" class="">joel.aaron.levin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">Thanks Nate.<br class=""><br class=""></div>It's my first go with JAAS - reading passage below from - <a href="https://wiki.shibboleth.net/confluence/display/IDP30/JAASAuthnConfiguration" class="">https://wiki.shibboleth.net/confluence/display/IDP30/JAASAuthnConfiguration</a> - does it mean that JAAS is not recommended for Shibboleth server-side? Thanks.<br class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class="">"<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:20px;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;display:inline!important;float:none;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class="">The<span class=""> </span></span>JAAS<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:20px;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;display:inline!important;float:none;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span class=""> </span>(Java Authentication and Authorization Service) is a desktop authentication mechanism in Java that has been commonly misappropriated as a server-side technology. A variety of "login module" plugins exist for different password-based technologies. Support is provided for using JAAS as a back-end for the<span class=""> </span></span>password authentication<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:20px;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;display:inline!important;float:none;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span class=""> </span>login flow.</span>"<br class=""></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 12:49 AM, Nate Klingenstein <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:ndk@sudonym.me" target="_blank" class="">ndk@sudonym.me</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Joel,<br class="">
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I think it would be easiest to accomplish this entire in JAAS. It has the sufficiency and fallback capabilities that you’re looking for largely built-in. Only if you want or need to interact further with the user would I try to do anything in the IdP itself.<br class="">
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Taking the late train,<br class="">
Nate.<br class="">
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> Hi List:<br class="">
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> Is it possible to configure authentication such that -- if JAAS authenticationfails - authentication is via LDAP?<br class="">
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> Rationale: As accounts are create first in the DB versus LDAP - we wish to authenticate against the DB - but if DB is down - there can be fail-over to LDAP.<br class="">
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> Thanks<br class="">
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