<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">Thanks everyone for the quick answers and confirming that blocking access to certain apps needs to happen on the SP.<div><br></div><div>Jessica<br><div><div><br><div><div>On Oct 15, 2015, at 8:58 AM, Dave Perry <<a href="mailto:Dave.Perry@hull-college.ac.uk">Dave.Perry@hull-college.ac.uk</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-GB" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">It appears we keep our Shibboleth usage relatively simple compared to quite a few of the institutions represented here. The only attributes most SPs demand are a unique ID and staff/student flag.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Our AD is also used for Office 365 ADFS, and I believe our license for staff and students to have it at home is dependent on them being currently employed by/enrolled with the college.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Our IdP (and AD systems) only sees an ‘active staff and students’ copy of the directory, there is a far bigger one managed by Novell Identity Manager behind the scenes.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">_________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Dave Perry<br>eLearning Technologist, Hull College Group<br><br>Room L34 - Queens Gardens Library<br>Wilberforce Drive, Queen's Gardens, Hull, HU1 3DG<br>Extension 2230 / Direct Dial 01482 381930<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">* Need a fast reply? Try<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:elearning@hull-college.ac.uk" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: blue;">elearning@hull-college.ac.uk</span></a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>*<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>users [<a href="mailto:users-bounces@shibboleth.net">mailto:users-bounces@shibboleth.net</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Glen Shere<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>15 October 2015 16:52<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Shib Users<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: Can Shib 3 deny access to certain SPs based on a user attribute?<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">A person's presence in a directory, and consequent ability to authenticate, must not imply authorization to any particular service.<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">The vast majority of the people in our directory are "ex-students"; they are alumni of the University. Transcript requests and our alumni community portal are two services offered primarily to this population. Many continue to use their e-mail as well. Some "ex-students" leave for one reason or another and then return; they need to, among other things, use their log-in to register for class.<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Dave Perry <<a href="mailto:Dave.Perry@hull-college.ac.uk" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">Dave.Perry@hull-college.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">This may seem an odd question but why are your ex students allowed to actively login to an institution system? A month after ours finish, they are locked out of AD ergo can't access anything.<br><br>Dave<br><br>_________________________________________________<br>Dave Perry<br>eLearning Technologist, Hull College Group<br><br>Room L34 - Queens Gardens Library<br>Wilberforce Drive, Queen's Gardens, Hull, HU1 3DG<br>Extension 2230 / Direct Dial 01482 381930<br><br>* Need a fast reply? Try<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:elearning@hull-college.ac.uk" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">elearning@hull-college.ac.uk</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>*<o:p></o:p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: users [mailto:<a href="mailto:users-bounces@shibboleth.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">users-bounces@shibboleth.net</a>] On Behalf Of Jessica Coltrin<br>Sent: 15 October 2015 16:37<br>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:users@shibboleth.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">users@shibboleth.net</a><br>Subject: Can Shib 3 deny access to certain SPs based on a user attribute?<br><br>Can Shib 3 deny access to certain SPs based on a user attribute? Our use case is that we want former students who are not currently active to have access to only certain SPs and we'd like to control that with Shibboleth based in an attribute indicating status. Is this possible? If not, how do others handle this use case?<br><br>Thanks,<br>Jessica<br><br>Sent from my iPhone<br>--<br>To unsubscribe from this list send an email to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:users-unsubscribe@shibboleth.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">users-unsubscribe@shibboleth.net</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">**********************************************************************<br>This message is sent in confidence for the addressee<br>only. It may contain confidential or sensitive<br>information. The contents are not to be disclosed<br>to anyone other than the addressee. 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