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</span>Any examples? I'd be curious
</blockquote></div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Sure. David already touched on a prominent one, Banner. Like I'm sure as is the case at many schools who use Banner, if there is one application that is likely to get what it wants, its Banner. And because Ellucian decided to take the stance of offering SAML support with Banner XE by creating their own IdP called Ellucian Identity Services (taken from WSO2) as a means of translating SAML to CAS rather than support SAML directly in their apps, many here are convinced we must deploy EIS (either as an island or as a hybrid with shibb) in order to do effective SSO. Certainly having native CAS support in IdP v3 helps my argument and I understand Ellucain claims they will eventually had native SAML support to their apps, but in the meantime, as David put it, "a lot of oxygen is being sucked up" as a result.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">The other one is Office 365 and Azure AD. We are one of those schools that tried to draw a bit of a hard line with O365... we weren't going to sync passwords and we weren't going to stand up an ADFS environment, so we went the way of SAML integration and learned quickly while this was great for the web apps, without support for WS-fed active authentication, many other features simply wouldn't work with SAML (like the ability to activate all that free software Microsoft is giving away to our students). So again, much oxygen was sucked up as we continued to hold the hard line. More recently, it looks like things will get much better as Modern Authentication for O365 is released and brings us the parity we could have had all along with ADFS. But now, a new problem emerges, Microsoft having forced us to populate Azure AD in order to use O365 and Azure AD itself is touted as a cloud IdP with the ability to connect countless SaaS across multiple protocols... now with those pretty GUI's Scott was talking about, even services that support SAML are enticed by the MS marketing beast and want to peer against Azure AD since its there, pretty and shiny and I find the need to use considerable oxygen once more on why we shouldn't do a hybrid deployment or replace shibb with Azure AD.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">-Rob<br> <br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><br>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Robert W. Gorrell<br>Systems Architect, Identity and Access Management </div>
<div>University of NC at Greensboro<br><span style="white-space:nowrap">336-334-5954</span><br>PGP Key ID B36DB0CA<br></div></div></div>
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