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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">I think if I remember correctly it is was firewall and bigip tcp closing idle connections. Java is not informed of the tcp reset which results in users utilizing the effected pooled connections authentication
to fail. I have learned this lesson twice at two different universities. You can detect the resets using tcpdump.<br>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">Check the tcp idle parameters in this document might help. <br>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><a href="http://markgamache.blogspot.com/2010/12/tuning-f5-big-ip-performance-to-ruin.html" id="LPlnk872595">http://markgamache.blogspot.com/2010/12/tuning-f5-big-ip-performance-to-ruin.html</a><br>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> users-bounces@shibboleth.net <users-bounces@shibboleth.net> on behalf of Esquivel, Vince <Esquivelv@uhd.edu><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 17, 2015 4:36 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Shib Users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: sporadic user authenication issues</font>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">Any chance you can share what you had to adjust?</span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> users-bounces@shibboleth.net [mailto:users-bounces@shibboleth.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Rhian Resnick<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 17, 2015 3:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Shib Users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: sporadic user authenication issues</span></p>
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We have had similar issues with cas and shibboleth. We needed to adjust the connection pooling in the bigip. </p>
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From: "Esquivel, Vince" </p>
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Date:02/17/2015 3:30 PM (GMT-05:00) </p>
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To: Shib Users </p>
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Subject: RE: sporadic user authenication issues </p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">The LDAP sources are in an F5 load balancer pool, which we changed our configuration to point at. Is there a setting on the shibboleth config to increase this setting? Could
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">Thanks</span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>IAM David Bantz<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 17, 2015 1:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Shib Users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: sporadic user authenication issues</span></p>
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On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Esquivel, Vince <<a href="mailto:Esquivelv@uhd.edu" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">Esquivelv@uhd.edu</a>> wrote:</p>
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LDAP: error code 3 - Timelimit Exceeded</p>
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The error in the quoted log messages is explicit:</p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">That's AFTER authenticating the user with a bind with the user's submitted credentials,</span></p>
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which is completely different from the message in previous post indicating incorrect password for the user.</p>
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