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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">In my world we do not have people share accounts.&nbsp; People have accounts .&nbsp; Services provide permissions to each person in an adequate manner.&nbsp;
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">How can you tell who did the change if multiple people use the same account?&nbsp; It would seem unauditable for something like Budget ???? .&nbsp;&nbsp;
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> users-bounces@shibboleth.net [mailto:users-bounces@shibboleth.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Joe Blotner<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 20, 2015 3:08 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Shib Users'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Implementing Shibboleth - fine-grained access w/in an application<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#993366">Thanks for the quick response, Warren.&nbsp; &nbsp;Basically, what I&#8217;m understanding you to mean is that we create a mapping between people and accounts, alongside a mapping
 of roles to permissions.&nbsp; Then, when we assign the role to the user, he will only have that role on those accounts to which he has been mapped.&nbsp; Yes?
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<a href="mailto:users-bounces@shibboleth.net">users-bounces@shibboleth.net</a> [<a href="mailto:users-bounces@shibboleth.net">mailto:users-bounces@shibboleth.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Curry, Warren<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 20, 2015 11:39 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Shib Users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Implementing Shibboleth - fine-grained access w/in an application<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Assign individual account and do role based security.&nbsp; The security may need to have extra granularity for specific department code that
 a person has that role for.&nbsp; In turn you will need an attribute that you can encode this in.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">This is very similar to many roles, and entitlement we use at our location.&nbsp; We try to use master concept for this and not invent specific
 attribute for one application service.&nbsp; That would not be a good idea.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <o:p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">You need&nbsp; a general attribute you can encapsulate info within so that the SP can interpret and use it.&nbsp;
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<a href="mailto:users-bounces@shibboleth.net">users-bounces@shibboleth.net</a> [<a href="mailto:users-bounces@shibboleth.net">mailto:users-bounces@shibboleth.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Joe Blotner<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 20, 2015 2:12 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'users@shibboleth.net'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Implementing Shibboleth - fine-grained access w/in an application<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">We are a software development group who build custom webapps and apis used by both internal users and external clients and vendors.&nbsp; We are doing a
 build vs buy analysis, and I am finding it challenging to see how we would leverage Shibboleth to solve one of our key usage needs.&nbsp;
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Not only do we want to manage access to various applications, as well as features within applications, but also to business entities within our applications.&nbsp;
 For example:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">We have an account management application that includes a contract terms feature.&nbsp; Within the contract terms, one can do many things, including change
 the client budget.&nbsp; While we want everyone on the account management team to be able to see the budget data, there are only certain people we entrust to modify an account budget; we&#8217;ll call those people &#8220;Budget Managers&#8221;.&nbsp; Further, each Budget Manager can
 only modify budgets for the subset of accounts for which they are responsible.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Has anyone used Shibboleth to solve a use case similar to this one?&nbsp; If so, can you give me an overview of how it has been solved?&nbsp;
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif">Joe Blotner&nbsp;</span></b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#00AFCA">| Senior Director, Product &amp; Engineering</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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