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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks for looking into this, Paul. Sounds like it might at least be an option for us down the road.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The work that Duo did on their login handler is quite nice. I addition to the push authentication, it also supports token-based auth for users using the Mobile
app with a OTP display. I haven’t looked into how this works, though, as I’ve neither taken the time to install it or look at the code. I’m sure others on the list could shed a little more light on this and possibly persuade you further.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> users-bounces@shibboleth.net [mailto:users-bounces@shibboleth.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Hethmon<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 21, 2013 4:00 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Shib Users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Feedback on Multi-Context Broker Community Contribution<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">One of the issues with using RemoteUser is that forced authentication is not supported. I've actually got some code not committed yet that implements an MCB submodule
for RemoteUser. We're just not sure how useful that is given the lack of forced authentication support. Ideally, you would use MCB submodules for all of the authentication tasks, it gives you the most control over the stepped up authentication model.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">I just scanned the Duo handler and see how it's like the standard UserPassword handler, but I'm not picking up on what it is doing for the "Duo" authentication
part. From looking at their website, it looks like the login at the IdP using normal JAAS mechanisms would trigger the push notification to the user's phone? Then if the user approves it, that somehow lets the IdP know to proceed with the authentication? That
sounds like a pretty asynchronous process. All of that was me figuring out if I could write a submodule for the MCB without having used Duo ever.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">I do need to write a standalone MCB submodule project that others can use as a skeleton. I had planned on using SafeNet Safeword as that example as I've used
that two-factor token system for a number of years, but might be persuaded to do Duo.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><Wessel>, Keith <<a href="mailto:kwessel@illinois.edu">kwessel@illinois.edu</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>Shibboleth Users <<a href="mailto:users@shibboleth.net">users@shibboleth.net</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, October 21, 2013 4:44 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Shibboleth Users <<a href="mailto:users@shibboleth.net">users@shibboleth.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>RE: Feedback on Multi-Context Broker Community Contribution<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">This _<i>might</i>_ be of use to us at Illinois and possibly others in a similar situation to us.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We’ll soon be switching away from the UsernamePassword login handler to the RemoteUser login handler to integrate with a new university-wide SSO system that’s
being put in place. In other words, Shib will be using the other SSO as authoritative. However, the other SSO doesn’t currently have support for Duo which we’re considering. And Duo’s contributed login handler is only a drop-in replacement for the UsernamePassword
login handler. Duo, at our request, has added modifying the RemoteUser login handler to do a Duo token auth after getting a username back from the RemoteUser login handler, but I don’t think it’s a high priority.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We’d love if we could somehow use your MCB work to use a Remoteuser login handler for basic or unspecified authn requests but use something from Duo for MFA
requests. I’m not sure, after reading your docs, that this is doable, though. Thoughts or comments? Am I nuts here?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">
<a href="mailto:users-bounces@shibboleth.net">users-bounces@shibboleth.net</a> [<a href="mailto:users-bounces@shibboleth.net">mailto:users-bounces@shibboleth.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Hethmon<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 21, 2013 3:27 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Shibboleth Users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Feedback on Multi-Context Broker Community Contribution</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">I've been working on a project for InCommon to provide a Shibboleth Authentication Handler that implements ordered levels of authentication. So you could configure
both a simple password and a two-factor system inside of Shibboleth and then let the SP request which one to use. So if Joe User first authenticates with password, a second SP (or even the first for that matter), could then send an authentication request that
says to use two-factor authentication. The Multi-Context Broker (MCB) would then force the user to "upgrade" their authentication to two-factor to continue.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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on the Shibboleth wiki:</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Please take a look if you think this capability might be useful to you.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">thanks,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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