<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>So, basically, there is no standard for this? &nbsp;I do see the home org attribute you spoke of:</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><a href="http://macedir.org/ontologies/attribute/2012-11-10/attributeOntologyDoc/schachomeorganization.html">http://macedir.org/ontologies/attribute/2012-11-10/attributeOntologyDoc/schachomeorganization.html</a><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div><br></div>  <div
 style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1">  <font size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Leif Johansson &lt;leifj@sunet.se&gt;<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> users@shibboleth.net <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, May 14, 2013 7:23 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: School me on hub and spoke federations<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv7995961617">
  

    
  
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    <div class="yiv7995961617moz-cite-prefix">On 05/14/2013 04:19 PM, Mike Flynn
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        <div><span>OK, since I will have to identify the organization
            through an attribute instead of the entityID, what is an
            appropriate attribute for doing this that would be
            reasonable for the hub and spoke based institutions to
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    There is a scope thing (not the shibboleth extension by that name)
    inside the <br>
    AuthnRequest. Some support that. Others - especially those in
    R&amp;E space - <br>
    use schacHomeOrganization set to the domain of the org.<br>
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    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Cheers Leif<br>
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              <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Tom Scavo
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                <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Shib
                Users <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv7995961617moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto="mailto:users@shibboleth.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:users@shibboleth.net">&lt;users@shibboleth.net&gt;</a> <br>
                <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b>
                Monday, May 13, 2013 2:29 PM<br>
                <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b>
                Re: School me on hub and spoke federations<br>
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              On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Leif Johansson &lt;<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:leifj@sunet.se" target="_blank" href="mailto:leifj@sunet.se">leifj@sunet.se</a>&gt;
              wrote:<br>
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              &gt; However (as with any name-constraints-scheme) the
              more<br>
              &gt; scopes you have on a single IdP the higher the risk
              of<br>
              &gt; anything going wrong.<br>
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              Yes, I found one hub-and-spoke federation that had 256
              scopes on its<br>
              IdP Proxy. Clearly scoped attributes (such as
              eduPersonPrincipalName)<br>
              are not compatible with hub-and-spoke federations.<br>
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              Let me put it another way. In a full mesh federation, the
              scope helps<br>
              prevent one IdP from asserting arbitrary identities. In a<br>
              hub-and-spoke federation, the IdP Proxy is All-Powerful in
              that it can<br>
              assert any identity it wants. Indeed, the IdP Proxy is a
              single point<br>
              of compromise.<br>
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              Tom<br>
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