Unknown or Unusable Identity Provider for Shib 3.2 SP

shibboleth.vse4h at simplelogin.com shibboleth.vse4h at simplelogin.com
Tue Jun 4 20:56:51 UTC 2024


The exact error that's returned is documented here https://shibboleth.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/SHIB2/pages/2577072495/NativeSPTroubleshootingCommonErrors#NativeSPTroubleshootingCommonErrors-Unabletolocatemetadataforidentityprovider(https%3A%2F%2Fidentities.supervillain.edu%2Fidp%2Fshibboleth). Reason #2 says: Make sure you're loading the metadata of that identity provider. How would we make sure of this? Since the error is thrown prior to any authentication request, I feel like the issue must be isolated in the shib configs, but I'm struggling to debug that, particularly from afar.




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On Tuesday, June 4th, 2024 at 11:27 AM, Steve Platz via users - users at shibboleth.net <users_at_shibboleth_net_uvbvr at simplelogin.co> wrote:

> The person managing the SP would like to set the entityID to the historical autogenerated value, and I think that's fine to test, but unfortunately the autogenerated value would make an ill-formed entityID if we used it permanently, since it ends with metadata.php and begins with the URI for a development instance etc. Can't we update the shibboleth2.xml with a new entityID?
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> On Tuesday, June 4th, 2024 at 11:12 AM, Peter Schober via users - users at shibboleth.net users_at_shibboleth_net_uvbvr at simplelogin.co wrote:
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> > Steve Platz via users users at shibboleth.net [2024-06-04 19:15 CEST]:
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> > > You'll have to forgive me since I am not the person who has
> > > configured the SP software, nor do I have direct access to it, I'm
> > > trying to provide support to the person currently managing it.
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> > If the only change was the one on the IDP-side you mentioned then you
> > might get away without any access nor knowledge about the SP.
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> > Note that SP version 3.2 is not current and no longer supported by the
> > Shibboleth project, https://shibboleth.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/SP3/
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> > > I do manage the IdP, which was recently upgraded to simpleSAMLphp
> > > 2.x. The metadata that the IdP provides now sets an explicit
> > > entityID, where before this value was DYNAMIC and automatically
> > > generated depending on the environment. Updating the entityID to use
> > > an explicit, permanent value seems to have resulted in the Shib SP
> > > errors, but again I don't have access myself to the logs on that
> > > provider.
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> > Well, the first thing to do on the IDP side then is to explicitly set
> > the entityID to the exact same value that was autogenerated before.
> > (You can probably still see this in the metadata about the IDP you
> > gave to other SPs.)
> > I would expect that to take care of the "unknown IDP" error.
> > 
> > -peter
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