Problem implementing Shibboleth/SAML to authenticate users for Statistical Analysis Systems (SAS)

[John Dennis]

On 06/06/2018 03:24 PM, O'Quinn, Dennis wrote:
> The only thing I can say to that last response is 'Wow'....
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> Your previous responses were none too clear to a novice who does not know this environment and you did not reply to one of my key questions, which may have helped me along in the right direction, which was asking for a definition/perspective of the word 'client' in one of your earlier responses since the 'client' in this environment could be one of several entities depending on perspective....
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> Also, I don't recall addressing my question to you (and I checked).
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> I had the distinct impression from your previous tone that you had already blown me off.
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> I was under the impression that I was posting to a user community associated with Shibboleth where users could share and grow knowledge together.
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> Since you know so much and are apparently so annoyed with other people's ignorance (which I have noted on more that one post to other people), why do you even respond to these?
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> And speaking of tone, if you wish to forward this project and have it go somewhere, your tone in dealing with others that do not know this software (or the IdP/SP/SAML environment) may be something you should think about.
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> Otherwise, your user community will just say screw it and use something else (as I would if I weren't already so deep into it).

We all make mistakes from time to time and sometimes we just don't have 
the context to evaluate. I believe you're new to the mailing list so you 
may not realize Scott is not only the primary author of Shibboleth and 
member of the OASIS Technical Committee that defines the SAML standard 
but IMHO Scott represents some of the best qualities in an open source 
community I've seen in my 30+ years of open source work. For years Scott 
has promptly responded with useful help to almost every message on this 
list. As a matter of fact I'm significantly impressed Scott has been 
able to do this for so long and still get other work done. Only in the 
last year have I seen him pull back a bit and only because he is human 
and cannot support everyone 24/7 out of the kindness of his heart. I 
applaud open source heroes like Scott and everyone involved in the 
Shibboleth project. I'm impressed.

If you spend a bit of time in other open source communities you'll 
appreciate how good the Shibboleth community is in comparison.

Kudos to everyone involved.


-- 
John Dennis