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Farzan Qureshi
fqureshi at rosmini.school.nz
Tue Aug 19 23:00:00 EDT 2014
Hi Scott,
Sorry for the confusions.
He told me in other thread that to apply Federated settings, I first have
to make Authentication "Managed" and then apply Federation settings again.
This worked.
Secondly, about the link FederationMetaDataUrl. I understand that it has
nothing to do (for this scenario at least) after the discussion had with
Rob. May be my understanding was wrong. I thought that SP needs a metadata
to process the flow and vice versa. But here, only our IdP needs metadata
file.
You are right that restarting the computer has to do nothing because
Office365 is a separate entity and uncontrolled. I removed the ADFS role
because after applying federation changes, it was overwriting the settings
I was supplying. That is why I mentioned that I restarted the system. I was
just trying to scope down the issue :-)
Sorry again for all the confusion.
On 20 August 2014 14:48, Cantor, Scott <cantor.2 at osu.edu> wrote:
> On 8/19/14, 10:14 PM, "Farzan Qureshi" <fqureshi at rosmini.school.nz> wrote:
> >
> >Ok first thing first. I was working with ADFS to federate our domain with
> >office365. However there were several issues related to it. We planned to
> >move from it to Shibboleth. We have completely remove ADFS role from the
> >system. We have also uninstalled Microsoft
> > ADFS update - installed under Programs and features (in control panel).
> >So now ADFS is completely gone!
>
> What does that have to do with Office 365? How would it know anything
> about what you did or didn't do on your own server? If it's been told to
> use ADFS and the only way to fix that is by doing what he has told you to
> do, then I guess that's what you have to do.
>
> >Now the issue about metadata file. I have following in our
> >relying-party.xml
> >That is the reason I am talking about SAML i.e. FederationMetaDataUrl.
>
> What does Shibboleth's own configuration have to do with a setting inside
> Office 365? The answer is nothing.
>
> >My understanding is that having FederationMetadataUrl defines which
> >metadata to read and then follow the links mentioned in it, isn't it?
>
> Apparently that isn't how Office 365 works. If it doesn't support metadata
> for SAML, then that's the reality. It sounds to me like the very fact that
> it's asking for a URL for metadata is apparently a sign that your service
> is not set up to use SAML, but WS-Federation.
>
> >I have made federation changes couple of times from Managed to federated
> >as you have suggested but that FederationMetadataUrl comes back each time
> >I federate and supply federation commands in one go. It comes
> >automatically.
>
> He told you that "federated" in their speak does not mean SAML. So you're
> essentially repeating the same error over and over again. He didn't tell
> you, ever, to change from managed to federated. Seemed like he said the
> opposite to me.
>
> >I have also restarted the system to start again after removing ADFS role
> >and dependencies (updates).
>
> How does restarting your system impact theirs? It can't.
>
> -- Scott
>
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