Shibboleth SP and cPanel

[Keith Hazelton]

Yavor,

Your mileage will also vary depending on how the hosting company configures stuff.  

Personally I've had no luck trying to Shib web apps at Dreamhost because of all the indirection they put around httpd configuration.  It may be possible with more tinkering, but what I ended up doing was moving my site to a pure vm provider (linode.com) where I was really in control of everything and there was no cPanel or hosting company trying to "make my life easier".  I've never looked back.

        --Keith Hazelton
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On Aug 30, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Todd Piket wrote:

> Thanks for the info.  I'll look into it, but I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.  As for the mapping, that would be up to you to get that mapping correct in various config files, not Shib.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Todd Piket, Information Technology Services
> Minnesota State Colleges and Universities
> todd.piket at so.mnscu.edu  651-728-3198
> 
> "By failing to prepare, you are preparing to fail."  -- Benjamin Franklin
> 
> On Aug 30, 2012, at 9:46 AM, Yavor Yanakiev wrote:
> 
>> I'm trying to provide a mod_shib in the Apache instance. It's a Drupal based site with installed 
>>   http://drupal.org/project/shib_auth 
>> 
>> module. 
>> 
>> So far I found that cPanel my be using a module called mod_hosting
>>  http://www.modulehosting.com/
>> 
>> My impression is that Shib fails to map the request to the proper virtual host. 
>> 
>> ---------------------------------------------------
>> Yavor Yanakiev
>> Sr. Application Systems Developer
>> CUIT
>> 
>> yy247 at columbia.edu
>> 212-854-3991  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 30, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Todd Piket wrote:
>> 
>>> I implemented cPanel once.  It is used to administer Apache, MySQL, etc.  Kind of like a GoDaddy client interface thing.
>>> 
>>> Are you trying to authenticate cPanel customers against Shibboleth or are you trying to provide mod_shib in the Apache instance customers get?  Or both?
>>> 
>>> I haven't used cPanel in a long while, but I'll try to dredge up some notes and ping a few people.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Todd Piket, Information Technology Services
>>> Minnesota State Colleges and Universities
>>> todd.piket at so.mnscu.edu  651-728-3198
>>> 
>>> "By failing to prepare, you are preparing to fail."  -- Benjamin Franklin
>>> 
>>> On Aug 30, 2012, at 9:11 AM, Cantor, Scott wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 8/30/12 9:49 AM, "Yavor Yanakiev" <yy247 at columbia.edu> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> cPanel is a web hosting management tool used by many providers.
>>>>> http://cpanel.net/
>>>> 
>>>> Ok. Without knowing anything about it, it's not really possible for me to
>>>> guess as to what problem you're seeing.
>>>> 
>>>>> It's a proprietary solution and apparently has different than the
>>>>> standard Apache approach to virtualization.
>>>>> 
>>>>> By "standard approach" I meant your documentation describing Native SP
>>>>> Application model:
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://wiki.shibboleth.net/confluence/display/SHIB2/NativeSPApplicationMo
>>>>> del
>>>> 
>>>> That's not necessarily applicable unless you're trying to create separate
>>>> SP behavior within the application. It's not typical that you can do that
>>>> with a packaged app, the integration just isn't deep enough in most cases
>>>> to do that.
>>>> 
>>>>> I have a setup that works fine on a server without cPanel but when I
>>>>> tried to port it to a hosting provider that is using cPanel it fails.
>>>>> Even the status page can't be seen.  The provider is using same version
>>>>> of CentOS as me and as far as I know, the only difference is the cPanel.
>>>>> The Shib log files look fine and no errors are recorded.
>>>> 
>>>> There's nothing there to go on.
>>>> 
>>>>> Do anybody from the Shibboleth community successfully deployed SP on a
>>>>> cPanel managed hosting solution?
>>>> 
>>>> Is the cPanel thing even part of the Apache you're dealing with? Is it
>>>> used to administer Apache or something?
>>>> 
>>>> -- Scott
>>>> 
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