From cantor.2 at osu.edu  Mon Jun  3 14:34:03 2019
From: cantor.2 at osu.edu (Cantor, Scott)
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2019 18:34:03 +0000
Subject: Attribute name/description translations
Message-ID: <C728DCEF-90CE-43EF-A1FE-91B437EEE53C@osu.edu>

Just a heads up if any folks are still lurking here, there's an impending "new" need for translations to get added to the distribution for the names and descriptions of attributes.

We're pulling that material out into a separate service so that it's not always necessary to define these things in the resolver, so there's a potential to get more consistent community-defined names if that's desired.?

I don't have a lot of the default attribute rules defined yet but I'm finishing up the name/description support and eventually we'll want to include some default translations if there's interest.

-- Scott



From lukas.haemmerle at switch.ch  Tue Jun  4 02:43:37 2019
From: lukas.haemmerle at switch.ch (=?UTF-8?Q?Lukas_H=c3=a4mmerle?=)
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2019 08:43:37 +0200
Subject: Attribute name/description translations
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Hi Scott

On 03.06.19 20:34, Cantor, Scott wrote:
> Just a heads up if any folks are still lurking here

Still lurking :-)


> there's an
> impending "new" need for translations to get added to the
> distribution for the names and descriptions of attributes.

Ok, is there already a properties file or similar with the English
texts? And for which (IdP) version would this be needed?


> I don't have a lot of the default attribute rules defined yet but I'm
> finishing up the name/description support and eventually we'll want
> to include some default translations if there's interest.

I think there is definitely some interest. In Switzerland we have
published (mostly to make user consent more user friendly) attribute
resolver files [1] in four languages already for quite some time. So,
we/you might re-use these attributes as a starting point.


Best Regards
Lukas

[1]
https://www.switch.ch/aai/guides/idp/installation/attribute-resolver-switchaai-core.xml
https://www.switch.ch/aai/guides/idp/installation/attribute-resolver-interfederation-core.xml
https://www.switch.ch/aai/guides/idp/installation/attribute-resolver-connectors.xml
https://www.switch.ch/aai/guides/idp/installation/attribute-resolver-other.xml

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lukas.haemmerle at switch.ch, http://www.switch.ch

From cantor.2 at osu.edu  Tue Jun  4 08:29:16 2019
From: cantor.2 at osu.edu (Cantor, Scott)
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2019 12:29:16 +0000
Subject: Attribute name/description translations
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On 6/4/19, 2:45 AM, "i18n on behalf of Lukas H?mmerle" <i18n-bounces at shibboleth.net on behalf of lukas.haemmerle at switch.ch> wrote:

> Ok, is there already a properties file or similar with the English
> texts? And for which (IdP) version would this be needed?

it's for V4, and no, I don't have the default attributes all defined yet, but it's mostly what's in the "full" resolver example file in V3 plus perhaps some others.

We have never included default name/description text even in English, so I don't really have anything to use right now.

> I think there is definitely some interest. In Switzerland we have
> published (mostly to make user consent more user friendly) attribute
> resolver files [1] in four languages already for quite some time. So,
> we/you might re-use these attributes as a starting point.

If they have English too, I can pretty much promise that's what I'll do.

The test files right now are in [1] but I'll probably be revising how things look, it's still early.

I don't think we're going to stop allowing the resolver to be used to configure all this, there are plenty of cases where that's easier. The reason for all this new code is proxying, it allows us to pass data in bulk through the resolver with no attribute definitions required so there have to be other ways of providing the SAML mappings and other attribute metadata.

-- Scott

[1] https://git.shibboleth.net/view/?p=java-identity-provider.git;a=tree;f=idp-conf/src/main/resources/attributes;hb=HEAD



From lukas.haemmerle at switch.ch  Tue Jun 11 03:08:34 2019
From: lukas.haemmerle at switch.ch (=?UTF-8?Q?Lukas_H=c3=a4mmerle?=)
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 09:08:34 +0200
Subject: Attribute name/description translations
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On 04.06.19 14:29, Cantor, Scott wrote:
>> I think there is definitely some interest. In Switzerland we have 
>> published (mostly to make user consent more user friendly)
>> attribute resolver files [1] in four languages already for quite
>> some time. So, we/you might re-use these attributes as a starting
>> point.
> 
> If they have English too, I can pretty much promise that's what I'll
> do.

Apparently, Rod has been having a closer look at them :-)


> The test files right now are in [1] but I'll probably be revising how
> things look, it's still early.

So, could you please let us know when things are ready/stable enough to
get translated. I'll then import the strings into the translation
project and invite the translators to start.


Best Regards
Lukas


-- 
SWITCH
Lukas H?mmerle, Trust & Identity
Werdstrasse 2, P.O. Box, 8021 Zurich, Switzerland
phone +41 44 268 15 05, direct +41 44 268 15 64
lukas.haemmerle at switch.ch, http://www.switch.ch

From davide.vaghetti at garr.it  Tue Jun 11 03:13:26 2019
From: davide.vaghetti at garr.it (Davide Vaghetti)
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 09:13:26 +0200
Subject: Attribute name/description translations
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On 11/06/19 09:08, Lukas H?mmerle wrote:
> On 04.06.19 14:29, Cantor, Scott wrote:
>>> I think there is definitely some interest. In Switzerland we have 
>>> published (mostly to make user consent more user friendly)
>>> attribute resolver files [1] in four languages already for quite
>>> some time. So, we/you might re-use these attributes as a starting
>>> point.
>>
>> If they have English too, I can pretty much promise that's what I'll
>> do.
> 
> Apparently, Rod has been having a closer look at them :-)
> 
> 
>> The test files right now are in [1] but I'll probably be revising how
>> things look, it's still early.
> 
> So, could you please let us know when things are ready/stable enough to
> get translated. I'll then import the strings into the translation
> project and invite the translators to start.

... on my mark ;-)

Davide>
> 
> Best Regards
> Lukas
> 
> 

-- 
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From takeshi at nii.ac.jp  Tue Jun 11 03:53:56 2019
From: takeshi at nii.ac.jp (Takeshi NISHIMURA)
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 16:53:56 +0900
Subject: Attribute name/description translations
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We are also ready to proceed.

Takeshi

On 2019/06/11 16:13, Davide Vaghetti wrote:
> 
> 
> On 11/06/19 09:08, Lukas H?mmerle wrote:
>> On 04.06.19 14:29, Cantor, Scott wrote:
>>>> I think there is definitely some interest. In Switzerland we have
>>>> published (mostly to make user consent more user friendly)
>>>> attribute resolver files [1] in four languages already for quite
>>>> some time. So, we/you might re-use these attributes as a starting
>>>> point.
>>>
>>> If they have English too, I can pretty much promise that's what I'll
>>> do.
>>
>> Apparently, Rod has been having a closer look at them :-)
>>
>>
>>> The test files right now are in [1] but I'll probably be revising how
>>> things look, it's still early.
>>
>> So, could you please let us know when things are ready/stable enough to
>> get translated. I'll then import the strings into the translation
>> project and invite the translators to start.
> 
> ... on my mark ;-)
> 
> Davide>

From cantor.2 at osu.edu  Tue Jun 11 08:45:15 2019
From: cantor.2 at osu.edu (Cantor, Scott)
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 12:45:15 +0000
Subject: Attribute name/description translations
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References: <C728DCEF-90CE-43EF-A1FE-91B437EEE53C@osu.edu>
 <4f9e9067-9111-c94e-3b6a-2ce08b19a2cd@switch.ch>
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On 6/11/19, 3:10 AM, "i18n on behalf of Lukas H?mmerle" <i18n-bounces at shibboleth.net on behalf of lukas.haemmerle at switch.ch> wrote:

> So, could you please let us know when things are ready/stable enough to
> get translated. I'll then import the strings into the translation
> project and invite the translators to start.

Yes, I will. I expect to make relatively minor changes to the SWITCH examples (e.g. "mail" is not formally defined in LDAP,and thus SAML, as a preferred email address, it's an arbitrary multi-valued set of them")

-- Scott



