From takeshi at nii.ac.jp  Sun Oct 14 12:25:02 2018
From: takeshi at nii.ac.jp (Takeshi NISHIMURA)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 01:25:02 +0900
Subject: system/messages/messages_*.properties was deleted in upgrading
In-Reply-To: <C0B7901D-6022-4D57-AD4F-B634CE7F5688@osu.edu>
References: <54ee0138-91f5-2916-b272-be474f0b1f92@nii.ac.jp>
 <0C04E66F-F4CE-45E6-A727-0C72C001F9F6@steadingsoftware.com>
 <018d01d2b42f$482ee0a0$d88ca1e0$@steadingsoftware.com>
 <1C9597CB-BE87-4553-81F4-132DF6A16B94@nii.ac.jp>
 <000b01d2b437$b61bc580$22535080$@steadingsoftware.com>
 <9846A6064BD102419D06814DD0D78DE11C015D85@CIO-TNC-D2MBX02.osuad.osu.edu>
 <082A3500-244B-4F02-AF75-23CA68409F63@nii.ac.jp>
 <45fe4105-ce24-2d6f-34ad-3360222e0364@switch.ch>
 <C0B7901D-6022-4D57-AD4F-B634CE7F5688@osu.edu>
Message-ID: <D7E57460-7410-4605-9EE9-92E181D4AB98@nii.ac.jp>

Lukas,

I would like to proceed localization for 3.4.0.
I found some new resources to translate pasted below.

Another source for consideration:
Text for the 'reset' of the attribute release consent seems to be confusing
https://issues.shibboleth.net/jira/browse/IDP-1232

Best regards,
Takeshi

120a125
> idp.logout.sp-initiated = You have been logged out of the following service:
170a176,194
> # General messages related to impersonation interceptor
> 
> idp.impersonate.header = Account Impersonation
> idp.impersonate.text = Enter an account name to impersonate to this service or continue normally.
> idp.impersonate.login-as = Login as
> idp.impersonate.impersonate = Impersonate
> idp.impersonate.continue = Continue Normally
> 
> # General messages related to key-unlocking admin flow
> 
> idp.unlock-keys.title = Attended Restart Key Unlock
> idp.unlock-keys.keystorePassword = DataSealer Keystore Password
> idp.unlock-keys.keyPassword = DataSealer Key Password
> idp.unlock-keys.privateKeyPassword = Private Key Password
> idp.unlock-keys.unlock = Unlock
> idp.unlock-keys.cancel = Cancel
> idp.unlock-keys.complete = The system is unlocked and ready for use.
> idp.unlock-keys.error = Unlock failed; check log for specific message.
> 
210a235,237
> impersonation-violation.title = Access Denied
> impersonation-violation.message = You do not have permission to impersonate the selected account.
> 
269a297,301
> 
> invalid-event.title = Invalid Event
> invalid-event.message = <p>The underlying software encountered an event to which it was not programmed to respond.</p><br/> \
>                          <p>Please report this problem to your Help Desk or administrative staff. It has \
>                          also been logged for an administrator to review.</p>


> 2017/09/22 0:59, Cantor, Scott <cantor.2 at osu.edu> wrote:
> 
> On 9/21/17, 3:16 AM, "i18n on behalf of Lukas H?mmerle" <i18n-bounces at shibboleth.net on behalf of lukas.haemmerle at switch.ch> wrote:
> 
>> I second Takeshi's suggestion. Even if some of them are outdated at some
>> point, including the translation files is still better than not having
>> any and instead have many deployers (who are not in an English-speaking
>> country) find and download the files manually.
> 
> As long as that's understood to be a risk, I don't have any objection to us checking them in for 3.4.
> 
> -- Scott


From lukas.haemmerle at switch.ch  Tue Oct 16 06:59:49 2018
From: lukas.haemmerle at switch.ch (=?UTF-8?Q?Lukas_H=c3=a4mmerle?=)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 12:59:49 +0200
Subject: system/messages/messages_*.properties was deleted in upgrading
In-Reply-To: <D7E57460-7410-4605-9EE9-92E181D4AB98@nii.ac.jp>
References: <54ee0138-91f5-2916-b272-be474f0b1f92@nii.ac.jp>
 <0C04E66F-F4CE-45E6-A727-0C72C001F9F6@steadingsoftware.com>
 <018d01d2b42f$482ee0a0$d88ca1e0$@steadingsoftware.com>
 <1C9597CB-BE87-4553-81F4-132DF6A16B94@nii.ac.jp>
 <000b01d2b437$b61bc580$22535080$@steadingsoftware.com>
 <9846A6064BD102419D06814DD0D78DE11C015D85@CIO-TNC-D2MBX02.osuad.osu.edu>
 <082A3500-244B-4F02-AF75-23CA68409F63@nii.ac.jp>
 <45fe4105-ce24-2d6f-34ad-3360222e0364@switch.ch>
 <C0B7901D-6022-4D57-AD4F-B634CE7F5688@osu.edu>
 <D7E57460-7410-4605-9EE9-92E181D4AB98@nii.ac.jp>
Message-ID: <02a1d9aa-d8a1-b743-736e-c926bc7517de@switch.ch>

Hi Takeshi

On 14.10.18 18:25, Takeshi NISHIMURA wrote:
> I would like to proceed localization for 3.4.0.
> I found some new resources to translate pasted below.

Thanks for the reminder. I created version "3.4" in Zanata:
https://translate.zanata.org/iteration/view/shib-idpv3-translations/3.4?dswid=2886


> Another source for consideration:
> Text for the 'reset' of the attribute release consent seems to be confusing
> https://issues.shibboleth.net/jira/browse/IDP-1232

True, I changed in the English file the key idp.attribute-release.revoke
to Thomas' latest proposal which certainly is better than what has been
there so far.

So, translators need update this existing string as well by:
1. Searching for: "resource-id:idp.attribute-release.revoke"
2. Then updating the translated text to match the slightly new meaning.

I will send a separate mail to start translation for 3.4 once I did the
German translations and once I'm confident I did not miss anything :-)

Best Regards
Lukas



-- 
SWITCH
Lukas H?mmerle, Trust & Identity
G?ANT Project Task Leader of
eduGAIN Service Development - Research and Service Providers
Werdstrasse 2, P.O. Box, 8021 Zurich, Switzerland
phone +41 44 268 15 05, direct +41 44 268 15 64
lukas.haemmerle at switch.ch, http://www.switch.ch

From takeshi at nii.ac.jp  Tue Oct 16 07:37:31 2018
From: takeshi at nii.ac.jp (Takeshi NISHIMURA)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 20:37:31 +0900
Subject: system/messages/messages_*.properties was deleted in upgrading
In-Reply-To: <02a1d9aa-d8a1-b743-736e-c926bc7517de@switch.ch>
References: <54ee0138-91f5-2916-b272-be474f0b1f92@nii.ac.jp>
 <0C04E66F-F4CE-45E6-A727-0C72C001F9F6@steadingsoftware.com>
 <018d01d2b42f$482ee0a0$d88ca1e0$@steadingsoftware.com>
 <1C9597CB-BE87-4553-81F4-132DF6A16B94@nii.ac.jp>
 <000b01d2b437$b61bc580$22535080$@steadingsoftware.com>
 <9846A6064BD102419D06814DD0D78DE11C015D85@CIO-TNC-D2MBX02.osuad.osu.edu>
 <082A3500-244B-4F02-AF75-23CA68409F63@nii.ac.jp>
 <45fe4105-ce24-2d6f-34ad-3360222e0364@switch.ch>
 <C0B7901D-6022-4D57-AD4F-B634CE7F5688@osu.edu>
 <D7E57460-7410-4605-9EE9-92E181D4AB98@nii.ac.jp>
 <02a1d9aa-d8a1-b743-736e-c926bc7517de@switch.ch>
Message-ID: <ab5306ec-b14d-6615-aa1a-fdffe0949a25@nii.ac.jp>

Hi Lukas. Thanks a lot!

Takeshi

On 2018/10/16 19:59, Lukas H?mmerle wrote:
> Hi Takeshi
> 
> On 14.10.18 18:25, Takeshi NISHIMURA wrote:
>> I would like to proceed localization for 3.4.0.
>> I found some new resources to translate pasted below.
> 
> Thanks for the reminder. I created version "3.4" in Zanata:
> https://translate.zanata.org/iteration/view/shib-idpv3-translations/3.4?dswid=2886
> 
> 
>> Another source for consideration:
>> Text for the 'reset' of the attribute release consent seems to be confusing
>> https://issues.shibboleth.net/jira/browse/IDP-1232
> 
> True, I changed in the English file the key idp.attribute-release.revoke
> to Thomas' latest proposal which certainly is better than what has been
> there so far.
> 
> So, translators need update this existing string as well by:
> 1. Searching for: "resource-id:idp.attribute-release.revoke"
> 2. Then updating the translated text to match the slightly new meaning.
> 
> I will send a separate mail to start translation for 3.4 once I did the
> German translations and once I'm confident I did not miss anything :-)
> 
> Best Regards
> Lukas

From cantor.2 at osu.edu  Tue Oct 16 08:12:57 2018
From: cantor.2 at osu.edu (Cantor, Scott)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 12:12:57 +0000
Subject: system/messages/messages_*.properties was deleted in upgrading
In-Reply-To: <02a1d9aa-d8a1-b743-736e-c926bc7517de@switch.ch>
References: <54ee0138-91f5-2916-b272-be474f0b1f92@nii.ac.jp>
 <0C04E66F-F4CE-45E6-A727-0C72C001F9F6@steadingsoftware.com>
 <018d01d2b42f$482ee0a0$d88ca1e0$@steadingsoftware.com>
 <1C9597CB-BE87-4553-81F4-132DF6A16B94@nii.ac.jp>
 <000b01d2b437$b61bc580$22535080$@steadingsoftware.com>
 <9846A6064BD102419D06814DD0D78DE11C015D85@CIO-TNC-D2MBX02.osuad.osu.edu>
 <082A3500-244B-4F02-AF75-23CA68409F63@nii.ac.jp>
 <45fe4105-ce24-2d6f-34ad-3360222e0364@switch.ch>
 <C0B7901D-6022-4D57-AD4F-B634CE7F5688@osu.edu>
 <D7E57460-7410-4605-9EE9-92E181D4AB98@nii.ac.jp>
 <02a1d9aa-d8a1-b743-736e-c926bc7517de@switch.ch>
Message-ID: <SN6PR0102MB3502AFCE3278289C5067E76FD0FE0@SN6PR0102MB3502.prod.exchangelabs.com>

> True, I changed in the English file the key idp.attribute-release.revoke to
> Thomas' latest proposal which certainly is better than what has been there so
> far.

No offense intended, but it really doesn't read as confusing at all in English to me at least, so we didn't see much justification to change it.

-- Scott


From lukas.haemmerle at switch.ch  Tue Oct 16 08:45:16 2018
From: lukas.haemmerle at switch.ch (=?UTF-8?Q?Lukas_H=c3=a4mmerle?=)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 14:45:16 +0200
Subject: system/messages/messages_*.properties was deleted in upgrading
In-Reply-To: <SN6PR0102MB3502AFCE3278289C5067E76FD0FE0@SN6PR0102MB3502.prod.exchangelabs.com>
References: <54ee0138-91f5-2916-b272-be474f0b1f92@nii.ac.jp>
 <0C04E66F-F4CE-45E6-A727-0C72C001F9F6@steadingsoftware.com>
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 <45fe4105-ce24-2d6f-34ad-3360222e0364@switch.ch>
 <C0B7901D-6022-4D57-AD4F-B634CE7F5688@osu.edu>
 <D7E57460-7410-4605-9EE9-92E181D4AB98@nii.ac.jp>
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Message-ID: <9df7967e-2e28-7c90-d99d-5c6124528080@switch.ch>

On 16.10.18 14:12, Cantor, Scott wrote:
>> True, I changed in the English file the key
>> idp.attribute-release.revoke to Thomas' latest proposal which
>> certainly is better than what has been there so far.
> 
> No offense intended, but it really doesn't read as confusing at all
> in English to me at least, so we didn't see much justification to
> change it.

You are probably used to read and write complex things, be it code or
test ;-) At least in the issue [1] Rod agreed that it might be hard for
native speakers as well.

How do you feel about changing this string to "Display the information
to be transferred so that I can still reject the release." (or something
better) and closing the issue [1]?


Best Regards
Lukas

[1] https://issues.shibboleth.net/jira/browse/IDP-1232

-- 
SWITCH
Lukas H?mmerle, Trust & Identity
G?ANT Project Task Leader of
eduGAIN Service Development - Research and Service Providers
Werdstrasse 2, P.O. Box, 8021 Zurich, Switzerland
phone +41 44 268 15 05, direct +41 44 268 15 64
lukas.haemmerle at switch.ch, http://www.switch.ch

From cantor.2 at osu.edu  Tue Oct 16 08:52:19 2018
From: cantor.2 at osu.edu (Cantor, Scott)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 12:52:19 +0000
Subject: system/messages/messages_*.properties was deleted in upgrading
In-Reply-To: <9df7967e-2e28-7c90-d99d-5c6124528080@switch.ch>
References: <54ee0138-91f5-2916-b272-be474f0b1f92@nii.ac.jp>
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Message-ID: <SN6PR0102MB3502EDE454A169EFFEA4CBFFD0FE0@SN6PR0102MB3502.prod.exchangelabs.com>

> You are probably used to read and write complex things, be it code or test ;-) At
> least in the issue [1] Rod agreed that it might be hard for native speakers as
> well.

He and I may disagree on that, but I definitely didn't see the suggestion as an improvement.

> How do you feel about changing this string to "Display the information to be
> transferred so that I can still reject the release." (or something
> better) and closing the issue [1]?

It really doesn't read well to me that way.

I really felt the text as is was as good as any suggestion made so far. I don't obviously care that much what the text says in other languages, if there are clearer ways to state it that's fine with me. The translation doesn't have to be literal.

I probably would have just closed the issue out but I was leaving it open in case a suggestion was made that I was ok with.

-- Scott


From cantor.2 at osu.edu  Tue Oct 16 09:06:16 2018
From: cantor.2 at osu.edu (Cantor, Scott)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 13:06:16 +0000
Subject: system/messages/messages_*.properties was deleted in upgrading
In-Reply-To: <SN6PR0102MB3502EDE454A169EFFEA4CBFFD0FE0@SN6PR0102MB3502.prod.exchangelabs.com>
References: <54ee0138-91f5-2916-b272-be474f0b1f92@nii.ac.jp>
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 <000b01d2b437$b61bc580$22535080$@steadingsoftware.com>
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Message-ID: <SN6PR0102MB35027D15F7968159FE2045C0D0FE0@SN6PR0102MB3502.prod.exchangelabs.com>

Also, again, all of our messages are examples just like all our views are, they aren't meant to be used without local modification. That's ultimately why I'm really not that keen on actually including translations in the box (*), since they break as soon as you do the thing we explicitly assume people have to do. That makes sense in an LDAP server to provide localized error messages, because the messages are fixed, but these messages are just inherently part of the customizeable part of the system.

I think we as a project have to take care to provide a stable translation point, so we can't just change the meaning of the text ourselves with no warning so we don't break the translations, but the translations themselves can't be more than examples in their own right that line up with our own.

TL;DR, we really shouldn't rathole on wording because the wording is meant to be changed, and if one wants to internationalize their own IdP, they really need people in their orgs fluent in the languages they support to translate *their* chosen text.

But if the only complaint is people don't like a particular English wording, I would simply say "change it anything you like".

-- Scott

(*) I know I've said otherwise but my understanding of the problem is continually evolving. I'd rather we provide auto-import of translations in the installer since that's something we can put proper warnings around.


From lukas.haemmerle at switch.ch  Tue Oct 16 10:03:52 2018
From: lukas.haemmerle at switch.ch (=?UTF-8?Q?Lukas_H=c3=a4mmerle?=)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 16:03:52 +0200
Subject: system/messages/messages_*.properties was deleted in upgrading
In-Reply-To: <SN6PR0102MB35027D15F7968159FE2045C0D0FE0@SN6PR0102MB3502.prod.exchangelabs.com>
References: <54ee0138-91f5-2916-b272-be474f0b1f92@nii.ac.jp>
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Message-ID: <1e918b92-e669-f253-8b56-6c4c0b71cb60@switch.ch>

On 16.10.18 15:06, Cantor, Scott wrote:
> TL;DR, we really shouldn't rathole on wording because the wording is 
> meant to be changed, and if one wants to internationalize their own 
> IdP, they really need people in their orgs fluent in the languages 
> they support to translate *their* chosen text.

True and agreed.


> I'd rather we provide auto-import of translations in the installer
> since that's something we can put proper warnings around.

That would be very nice and in the end would make things almost as easy
as if the languages were bundled directly with the code :-)

Most deployers probably care about ease-of-use when installing the
software. If they start with good defaults, they will use these defaults
and hardly customize things. So, if the defaults are good enough, this
is what will be used on most installations.


Best Regards
Lukas


-- 
SWITCH
Lukas H?mmerle, Trust & Identity
G?ANT Project Task Leader of
eduGAIN Service Development - Research and Service Providers
Werdstrasse 2, P.O. Box, 8021 Zurich, Switzerland
phone +41 44 268 15 05, direct +41 44 268 15 64
lukas.haemmerle at switch.ch, http://www.switch.ch

From lukas.haemmerle at switch.ch  Tue Oct 16 10:20:02 2018
From: lukas.haemmerle at switch.ch (=?UTF-8?Q?Lukas_H=c3=a4mmerle?=)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 16:20:02 +0200
Subject: Please help to translate Shibboleth IdP 3.4
Message-ID: <e10037e9-4db2-ee1e-1c2f-b4b169cadc5f@switch.ch>

Dear Shibboleth IdP Translators

The new Shibboleth IdP 3.4 was released on October 10th [1]. With it a
few new strings were introduced that also need some translation in your
respective languages. The new strings have the following keys:

idp.logout.sp-initiated
idp.impersonate.header
idp.impersonate.text
idp.impersonate.login-as
idp.impersonate.impersonate
idp.impersonate.continue
idp.unlock-keys.title
idp.unlock-keys.keystorePassword
idp.unlock-keys.keyPassword
idp.unlock-keys.privateKeyPassword
idp.unlock-keys.unlock
idp.unlock-keys.cancel
idp.unlock-keys.complete
idp.unlock-keys.error
impersonation-violation.title
impersonation-violation.message
invalid-event.title
invalid-event.message

I therefor kindly ask you to:

1. Go to
https://translate.zanata.org/iteration/view/shib-idpv3-translations/3.4?dswid=9690

2. Select the language to provide a translation for and then
   click on the file "messages".

3. In the translation window filter for "Incomplete" translations to
   just show the new and untranslated strings.
   If you want to search for a particular keys to review/translate,
   enter "resource-id:#key#" in the Zanata search box,
   e.g. "resource-id:idp.impersonate.text"

4. After you translated all strings, send an email to aai at switch.ch
   so that we can create the language file to be published on
   https://wiki.shibboleth.net/confluence/display/IDP30/MessagesTranslation


In case you are not the right person anymore to provide the translation,
please also get in touch with aai at switch.ch and let us know who to add
as new translator.


Best Regards and thank you very much
Lukas


PS: If you are looking for a better alternative to Google Translate as a
free string translator, I can recommend https://www.deepl.com (not
having any shares/relationship with them :-) )


[1]
https://wiki.shibboleth.net/confluence/display/IDP30/ReleaseNotes#ReleaseNotes-3.4.0(October10,2018)

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From cantor.2 at osu.edu  Tue Oct 16 10:29:50 2018
From: cantor.2 at osu.edu (Cantor, Scott)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 14:29:50 +0000
Subject: system/messages/messages_*.properties was deleted in upgrading
In-Reply-To: <1e918b92-e669-f253-8b56-6c4c0b71cb60@switch.ch>
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> Most deployers probably care about ease-of-use when installing the software.
> If they start with good defaults, they will use these defaults and hardly
> customize things. So, if the defaults are good enough, this is what will be used
> on most installations.

I don't think we could ever make an IdP with usable defaults in the more user-centric areas. Error messages for some of the rare conditions are probaby fine untouched, but I simply can't fathom how any org could ever buy off on the login/logout/consent defaults. Our comms team would have shot me if I tried that (though of course in my case I already had a UI for login and I had to make the IdP match it rather than the other way around).

-- Scott


From lukas.haemmerle at switch.ch  Thu Oct 25 02:59:22 2018
From: lukas.haemmerle at switch.ch (=?UTF-8?Q?Lukas_H=c3=a4mmerle?=)
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2018 08:59:22 +0200
Subject: Please help to translate Shibboleth IdP 3.4
In-Reply-To: <e10037e9-4db2-ee1e-1c2f-b4b169cadc5f@switch.ch>
References: <e10037e9-4db2-ee1e-1c2f-b4b169cadc5f@switch.ch>
Message-ID: <47d0fc89-a984-d38a-356a-c31497d8b7f0@switch.ch>

Update:
Currently there are the following translations available for the
Shibboleth IdP 3.4 on
https://wiki.shibboleth.net/confluence/display/IDP30/MessagesTranslation

* German
* Japanese
* Polish
* Spanish

Many thanks to those colleagues who helped finishing the above by adding
translations for the new 18 new strings!

Missing (from translations that were available for 3.3) are yet:
* Czech
* Greek
* French
* Italian
* Dutch

... and of course any other language that has not been translated yet.

Best Regards
Lukas


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From davide.vaghetti at garr.it  Tue Oct 30 10:25:17 2018
From: davide.vaghetti at garr.it (Davide Vaghetti)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 15:25:17 +0100
Subject: Please help to translate Shibboleth IdP 3.4
In-Reply-To: <47d0fc89-a984-d38a-356a-c31497d8b7f0@switch.ch>
References: <e10037e9-4db2-ee1e-1c2f-b4b169cadc5f@switch.ch>
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Message-ID: <8563dd89-8075-aa28-ad72-ab722ff04077@garr.it>

Hi Lukas,

the Italian translation is done.

Many thanks to you for the coordination effort and the set up!

Cheers,
Davide

On 25/10/18 08:59, Lukas H?mmerle wrote:
> Update:
> Currently there are the following translations available for the
> Shibboleth IdP 3.4 on
> https://wiki.shibboleth.net/confluence/display/IDP30/MessagesTranslation
> 
> * German
> * Japanese
> * Polish
> * Spanish
> 
> Many thanks to those colleagues who helped finishing the above by adding
> translations for the new 18 new strings!
> 
> Missing (from translations that were available for 3.3) are yet:
> * Czech
> * Greek
> * French
> * Italian
> * Dutch
> 
> ... and of course any other language that has not been translated yet.
> 
> Best Regards
> Lukas
> 
> 

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Davide Vaghetti
Consortium GARR
Tel: +390502213158
Mobile: +393357779542
Skype: daserzw

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