From takeshi at nii.ac.jp  Thu Sep 21 00:56:50 2017
From: takeshi at nii.ac.jp (Takeshi NISHIMURA)
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 13:56:50 +0900
Subject: system/messages/messages_*.properties was deleted in upgrading
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References: <54ee0138-91f5-2916-b272-be474f0b1f92@nii.ac.jp>
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Message-ID: <082A3500-244B-4F02-AF75-23CA68409F63@nii.ac.jp>

Hi Scott,

> We could also just take what exists and start checking them in, and if they fall out of date, it's no worse than not having them.

Is there any chance to be included in official packages?
It must be convenient for most users.

Sincerely,
Takeshi

> 2017/04/13 23:08?Cantor, Scott <cantor.2 at osu.edu> wrote:
> 
>>>> We just have to set some ground rules. The installer won't remove files in
>> system/ it doesn't know about, but we don't want to accidentally step on anything either.
>> 
>> That?s not what it does, but maybe what we should make it do.  I'm sure Scot
>> and I will be working this one through...
> 
> Obviously I thought that's what it did but I was mistaken. We don't want to have to track the file manifest closely enough so I doubt we want to change what it's doing.
> 
> In the end, not deleting them there would have the same impact as putting them in messages/ to begin with, either would prevent them from being overwritten if they needed to be.
> 
> Without installer support for the actual concept of a translation, I think they have to go in messages/
> 
> Otherwise it could be the installer's job to install some set of the "current" translations when system/ gets recreated and then it wouldn't really matter where they went.
> 
> We could also just take what exists and start checking them in, and if they fall out of date, it's no worse than not having them.
> 
> -- Scott


From lukas.haemmerle at switch.ch  Thu Sep 21 03:16:31 2017
From: lukas.haemmerle at switch.ch (=?UTF-8?Q?Lukas_H=c3=a4mmerle?=)
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 09:16:31 +0200
Subject: system/messages/messages_*.properties was deleted in upgrading
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 <018d01d2b42f$482ee0a0$d88ca1e0$@steadingsoftware.com>
 <1C9597CB-BE87-4553-81F4-132DF6A16B94@nii.ac.jp>
 <000b01d2b437$b61bc580$22535080$@steadingsoftware.com>
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Message-ID: <45fe4105-ce24-2d6f-34ad-3360222e0364@switch.ch>

On 21.09.17 06:56, Takeshi NISHIMURA wrote:
>> We could also just take what exists and start checking them in, and
>> if they fall out of date, it's no worse than not having them.
> 
> Is there any chance to be included in official packages? It must be
> convenient for most users.

I second Takeshi's suggestion. Even if some of them are outdated at some
point, including the translation files is still better than not having
any and instead have many deployers (who are not in an English-speaking
country) find and download the files manually.

Best Regards
Lukas

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From cantor.2 at osu.edu  Thu Sep 21 11:59:35 2017
From: cantor.2 at osu.edu (Cantor, Scott)
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 15:59:35 +0000
Subject: system/messages/messages_*.properties was deleted in upgrading
In-Reply-To: <45fe4105-ce24-2d6f-34ad-3360222e0364@switch.ch>
References: <54ee0138-91f5-2916-b272-be474f0b1f92@nii.ac.jp>
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 <018d01d2b42f$482ee0a0$d88ca1e0$@steadingsoftware.com>
 <1C9597CB-BE87-4553-81F4-132DF6A16B94@nii.ac.jp>
 <000b01d2b437$b61bc580$22535080$@steadingsoftware.com>
 <9846A6064BD102419D06814DD0D78DE11C015D85@CIO-TNC-D2MBX02.osuad.osu.edu>
 <082A3500-244B-4F02-AF75-23CA68409F63@nii.ac.jp>
 <45fe4105-ce24-2d6f-34ad-3360222e0364@switch.ch>
Message-ID: <C0B7901D-6022-4D57-AD4F-B634CE7F5688@osu.edu>

On 9/21/17, 3:16 AM, "i18n on behalf of Lukas H?mmerle" <i18n-bounces at shibboleth.net on behalf of lukas.haemmerle at switch.ch> wrote:

> I second Takeshi's suggestion. Even if some of them are outdated at some
> point, including the translation files is still better than not having
> any and instead have many deployers (who are not in an English-speaking
> country) find and download the files manually.

As long as that's understood to be a risk, I don't have any objection to us checking them in for 3.4.

-- Scott



