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                                                            <li>The logging service. This makes sense</li> 
                                                            <li>The access service. Ditto</li> 
                                                            <li>The metadata providers. Actually there is only one metadata provider which listens to this and that is the fail backed HTTP metadata where failfast controls whether the provider fails if the HTTP cannot be located <b>and</b> there is no backing file. I am not sure that I think we should change this,</li> 
                                                            <li>The IdP property <tt>idp.pool.LDAP.failFastInitialize</tt> (more about this below) defaults to false in the shipped conf files (i.e in every existing deployment)</li> 
                                                        </ul> <h3 style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; font-size: 16px; line-height: 1.563; margin: 30px 0 0 0"><a name="Wrinkles." style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none"></a>Wrinkles.</h3> 
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                                                            <li>Metadata provider configs speak of <tt>failfastInitialization</tt> (but as we see above in fact it it actually only one of them that listens)</li> 
                                                            <li>Services and (as of now) the three DataConnectors configs speak in terms of <tt>failFast</tt></li> 
                                                            <li>In addition the LDAP connector has an attribute {[failFastInitialize}} (as well as the new failfast) which is also reflected into a property {[idp.pool.LDAP.failFastInitialize}} and is to do with connection pool initialization (I haven't kicked the wheels there). This doesn't appear to be documented anywhere.</li> 
                                                        </ul> <h3 style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; font-size: 16px; line-height: 1.563; margin: 30px 0 0 0"><a name="Proposedworktodo." style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none"></a>Proposed work to do.</h3> 
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                                                            <li>Do we want to deprecate "failFastInitialization") on the (base class) metadata providers and add an explicit failFast to the only provider which this makes any sense for?</li> 
                                                            <li>We should make the method names in the DataConnectors match the configuration property.</li> 
                                                            <li>We should collapse the two LDAP attributes so that the old one is deprecated and the new one sets both.</li> 
                                                            <li>We should remove {[idp.pool.LDAP.failFastInitialize}} from ldap.properties and our example conf files.</li> 
                                                        </ul> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0">Comments on the above? If none I'll dive in on Monday</p> </td> 
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