<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
<meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1.0, maximum-scale=1.0">
<base href="https://issues.shibboleth.net/jira">
<title>Message Title</title>
</head>
<body class="jira" style="color: #333333; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.429">
<table id="background-table" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%" style="border-collapse: collapse; mso-table-lspace: 0pt; mso-table-rspace: 0pt; background-color: #f5f5f5; border-collapse: collapse; mso-table-lspace: 0pt; mso-table-rspace: 0pt" bgcolor="#f5f5f5">
<!-- header here -->
<tbody>
<tr>
<td id="header-pattern-container" style="padding: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; padding: 10px 20px">
<table id="header-pattern" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" style="border-collapse: collapse; mso-table-lspace: 0pt; mso-table-rspace: 0pt">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td id="header-avatar-image-container" valign="top" style="padding: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; vertical-align: top; width: 32px; padding-right: 8px" width="32"> <img id="header-avatar-image" class="image_fix" src="cid:jira-generated-image-avatar-003c5ff5-ea30-4e9c-8c12-62d6b1e13bd2" height="32" width="32" border="0" style="border-radius: 3px; vertical-align: top"> </td>
<td id="header-text-container" valign="middle" style="padding: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; vertical-align: middle; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; mso-line-height-rule: exactly; mso-text-raise: 1px"> <a class="user-hover" rel="rdw@iay.org.uk" id="email_rdw@iay.org.uk" href="https://issues.shibboleth.net/jira/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?name=rdw%40iay.org.uk" style="color:#0052cc;; color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none">Rod Widdowson</a> <strong>commented</strong> on <a href="https://issues.shibboleth.net/jira/browse/IDP-1361" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none"><img src="cid:jira-generated-image-avatar-b9db5f18-7063-4623-9b2a-e4a9caebcb45" height="16" width="16" border="0" align="absmiddle" alt="Task"> IDP-1361</a> </td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table> </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td id="email-content-container" style="padding: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; padding: 0 20px">
<table id="email-content-table" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" width="100%" style="border-collapse: collapse; mso-table-lspace: 0pt; mso-table-rspace: 0pt; border-spacing: 0; border-collapse: separate">
<tbody>
<tr>
<!-- there needs to be content in the cell for it to render in some clients -->
<td class="email-content-rounded-top mobile-expand" style="padding: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; color: #ffffff; padding: 0 15px 0 16px; height: 15px; background-color: #ffffff; border-left: 1px solid #cccccc; border-top: 1px solid #cccccc; border-right: 1px solid #cccccc; border-bottom: 0; border-top-right-radius: 5px; border-top-left-radius: 5px; height: 10px; line-height: 10px; padding: 0 15px 0 16px; mso-line-height-rule: exactly" height="10" bgcolor="#ffffff"> </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="email-content-main mobile-expand " style="padding: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; border-left: 1px solid #cccccc; border-right: 1px solid #cccccc; border-top: 0; border-bottom: 0; padding: 0 15px 0 16px; background-color: #ffffff" bgcolor="#ffffff">
<table class="page-title-pattern" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" width="100%" style="border-collapse: collapse; mso-table-lspace: 0pt; mso-table-rspace: 0pt">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td style="vertical-align: top;; padding: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; padding-right: 5px; font-size: 20px; line-height: 30px; mso-line-height-rule: exactly" class="page-title-pattern-header-container"> <span class="page-title-pattern-header" style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; padding: 0; font-size: 20px; line-height: 30px; mso-text-raise: 2px; mso-line-height-rule: exactly; vertical-align: middle"> <a href="https://issues.shibboleth.net/jira/browse/IDP-1361" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none">Re: Missed Deprecations in 3.4</a> </span> </td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table> </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td id="text-paragraph-pattern-top" class="email-content-main mobile-expand comment-top-pattern" style="padding: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; border-left: 1px solid #cccccc; border-right: 1px solid #cccccc; border-top: 0; border-bottom: 0; padding: 0 15px 0 16px; background-color: #ffffff; border-bottom: none; padding-bottom: 0" bgcolor="#ffffff">
<table class="text-paragraph-pattern" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" width="100%" style="border-collapse: collapse; mso-table-lspace: 0pt; mso-table-rspace: 0pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; mso-line-height-rule: exactly; mso-text-raise: 2px">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td class="text-paragraph-pattern-container mobile-resize-text " style="padding: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; padding: 0 0 10px 0"> <h1 style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0; font-size: 24px; font-weight: normal; line-height: 1.250; margin: 40px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"><a name="The%7B%7Burn%3Amace%3Ashibboleth%3A2.0%3Asecurity%7D%7Dnamespace" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none"></a>The <tt>urn:mace:shibboleth:2.0:security</tt> namespace</h1> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0">For the record the other use of the security name space are:</p>
<ul>
<li>The relying party namespace.</li>
<li>In the LDAP parser when a <tt><sec:X509Credential></tt> can be specified (types X509Inline, X509Filesystem, X509ResourceBacked)</li>
<li>In the SignatureValidationFilter when a <tt><sec:TrustEngine></tt> can be provided. A trustEngineRef can also be provided.</li>
<li>In the HTTP metadata parsers when a <tt><sec:TrustEngine></tt> can be provided. A trustEngineRef can also be provided, but this is deprecated. An HTTP Client Reference can also be provided.</li>
<li>Note that the HTTPDataConnector does not use any of this stuff. You provide references to an HTTP Client Reference and a</li>
</ul> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0">TrustEngine parsing is a nightmare. For the record the following are all currently supported types of TrustEngine:</p>
<ul>
<li>Chaining</li>
<li>SignatureChaining</li>
<li>StaticExplcitKey</li>
<li>StaticPKIXX509Credential</li>
<li>StaticExplicitKeySignature</li>
<li>StaticPKIXSignature</li>
</ul> <h3 style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; font-size: 16px; line-height: 1.563; margin: 30px 0 0 0"><a name="V4thoughts" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none"></a>V4 thoughts</h3> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0">I'll start by noting that all used of the security namespace except the SignatureValidators is deprecated.</p>
<ul>
<li>We are junking the relying party namespace. Phew.</li>
<li>We can remove the LDAP usage. People lose the ability to put the certificate inline, but why would they want to?</li>
<li>Given that it warns and it seems like the best way to do HTTP configuration is in Spring. I think we can kill off the trust engines in the HTTP Metadata parsers</li>
<li>I should love to remove at the TrustEngines from the SignatureValidation, but I don't see an easy way to do it. We'd need to force people to use a Spring-crafted trust engine (and I have no idea how hard that is) for the filter.<br> It's not obvious to me how many (if any) of the Trust Engine types make sense for signature validation.</li>
</ul> </td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table> </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="email-content-main mobile-expand " style="padding: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; border-left: 1px solid #cccccc; border-right: 1px solid #cccccc; border-top: 0; border-bottom: 0; padding: 0 15px 0 16px; background-color: #ffffff" bgcolor="#ffffff">
<table id="actions-pattern" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" width="100%" style="border-collapse: collapse; mso-table-lspace: 0pt; mso-table-rspace: 0pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; mso-line-height-rule: exactly; mso-text-raise: 1px">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td id="actions-pattern-container" valign="middle" style="padding: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; padding: 10px 0 10px 24px; vertical-align: middle; padding-left: 0">
<table align="left" style="border-collapse: collapse; mso-table-lspace: 0pt; mso-table-rspace: 0pt">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td class="actions-pattern-action-icon-container" style="padding: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; mso-line-height-rule: exactly; mso-text-raise: 0; vertical-align: middle"> <a href="https://issues.shibboleth.net/jira/browse/IDP-1361#add-comment" target="_blank" title="Add Comment" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none"> <img class="actions-pattern-action-icon-image" src="cid:jira-generated-image-static-comment-icon-88e52ced-6a47-45e8-b2cd-8fc6cfc57c7b" alt="Add Comment" title="Add Comment" height="16" width="16" border="0" style="vertical-align: middle"> </a> </td>
<td class="actions-pattern-action-text-container" style="padding: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; mso-line-height-rule: exactly; mso-text-raise: 4px; padding-left: 5px"> <a href="https://issues.shibboleth.net/jira/browse/IDP-1361#add-comment" target="_blank" title="Add Comment" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none">Add Comment</a> </td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table> </td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table> </td>
</tr>
<!-- there needs to be content in the cell for it to render in some clients -->
<tr>
<td class="email-content-rounded-bottom mobile-expand" style="padding: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; color: #ffffff; padding: 0 15px 0 16px; height: 5px; line-height: 5px; background-color: #ffffff; border-top: 0; border-left: 1px solid #cccccc; border-bottom: 1px solid #cccccc; border-right: 1px solid #cccccc; border-bottom-right-radius: 5px; border-bottom-left-radius: 5px; mso-line-height-rule: exactly" height="5" bgcolor="#ffffff"> </td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table> </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td id="footer-pattern" style="padding: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; padding: 12px 20px">
<table id="footer-pattern-container" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" style="border-collapse: collapse; mso-table-lspace: 0pt; mso-table-rspace: 0pt">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td id="footer-pattern-text" class="mobile-resize-text" width="100%" style="padding: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; color: #999999; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; mso-line-height-rule: exactly; mso-text-raise: 2px"> This message was sent by Atlassian Jira <span id="footer-build-information">(v7.12.2#712003-<span title="61a922d5458c2b34faa51a4f8074da7e37e442eb" data-commit-id="61a922d5458c2b34faa51a4f8074da7e37e442eb}">sha1:61a922d</span>)</span> </td>
<td id="footer-pattern-logo-desktop-container" valign="top" style="padding: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; padding-left: 20px; vertical-align: top">
<table style="border-collapse: collapse; mso-table-lspace: 0pt; mso-table-rspace: 0pt">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td id="footer-pattern-logo-desktop-padding" style="padding: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; padding-top: 3px"> <img id="footer-pattern-logo-desktop" src="https://issues.shibboleth.net/jira/images/mail/atlassian-email-logo.png" alt="Atlassian logo" title="Atlassian logo" width="191" height="24" class="image_fix"> </td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table> </td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table> </td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
</body>
</html>