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                                                    <td class="text-paragraph-pattern-container mobile-resize-text " style="padding: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; padding: 0 0 10px 0"> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Sorry about the anchor link, it has an extra comma. It was supposed to link to the same 5.5.1.1 you already located.</p> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0">I have to admit the way the specification is written combined with my less than perfect understanding of English language is sometimes a challenging combination. I may have gotten this all wrong but I think the wording in <br> "... Server SHOULD return the session's current acr as the value of the acr Claim" is bit misleading. I do see how "session's current acr" could be read to imply user been already authenticated and having "IsPassive" like behaviour but that does not make sense if you look at the overall picture.</p> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"><a href="http://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-core-1_0.html#AuthRequest" class="external-link" rel="nofollow" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none">http://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-core-1_0.html#AuthRequest</a></p> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0">1) In the authentication request, the  "isPassive/forceAuthn" family of  parameters is controlled by request parameter "prompt".</p> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0">2) The request parameter acr_values is then used then to list the requested authentication context classes. </p> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0">Now if you read the descriptions of both "prompt" and "acr_values" you will notice that list of acrs in "acr_values" is actually list of non-essential acrs. Now knowing this the interpretation of 5.5.1.1 wording to "isPassive" like behaviour  would just not make any sense (atleast so I tell me).</p> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0">Also, by the specification I think your first comment of ignoring requested non-essential acr would also be correct. The current authentication selection flow process could be used as such and the non-essential acr request could be just ignored. The reason I did not go that way myself is that it would leave the acr_values request parameter totally useless. That is the reason I made the modification to selection process to first try selecting authentication by the requested acr but if that failed (and the acr was non-essential), then repeat  process as if the acr was not requested at all.</p> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0">If this still does not make any sense we have to have a chat or I have to ask guidance from people who know OIDC better than me. It would not be first time I would have to admit not understanding specification.</p> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> </p> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> </p> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> </p> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> </p> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> </p> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> </p> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> </p> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> </p> </td> 
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