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                                            <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0">When I run start.jar manually using the same general options (working dir in idp-jetty-base/src/main/resources/jetty-base, etc.), it sets up the usual classpath will all the jetty-* jars, and dies missing additional classes coming from our POM like the backchannel connector and logback.</p> 
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Snowdog:jetty-base scantor$ java -jar /opt/jetty-distribution-9.3.16.v20170120/start.jar -Djetty.base=. -Djetty.home=/opt/jetty-distribution-9.3.16.v20170120 --list-classpath

Jetty Server Classpath:
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Version Information on 27 entries in the classpath.
Note: order presented here is how they would appear on the classpath.
      changes to the --module=name command line options will be reflected here.
 0:    3.10.2.v20150120-1634 | ${jetty.home}/lib/apache-jsp/org.eclipse.jdt.core.compiler.ecj-4.4.2.jar
 1:         9.3.16.v20170120 | ${jetty.home}/lib/apache-jsp/org.eclipse.jetty.apache-jsp-9.3.16.v20170120.jar
 2:                   8.0.33 | ${jetty.home}/lib/apache-jsp/org.mortbay.jasper.apache-el-8.0.33.jar
 3:                      2.3 | ${jetty.home}/lib/apache-jsp/org.mortbay.jasper.apache-jsp-8.0.33.jar
 4:                    1.2.5 | ${jetty.home}/lib/apache-jstl/org.apache.taglibs.taglibs-standard-impl-1.2.5.jar
 5:                    1.2.5 | ${jetty.home}/lib/apache-jstl/org.apache.taglibs.taglibs-standard-spec-1.2.5.jar
 6:                    (dir) | /Users/scantor/Documents/workspace/java-idp-jetty-base/src/main/resources/jetty-base/resources
 7:                    3.1.0 | ${jetty.home}/lib/servlet-api-3.1.jar
 8:                 3.1.0.M0 | ${jetty.home}/lib/jetty-schemas-3.1.jar
 9:         9.3.16.v20170120 | ${jetty.home}/lib/jetty-http-9.3.16.v20170120.jar
10:         9.3.16.v20170120 | ${jetty.home}/lib/jetty-server-9.3.16.v20170120.jar
11:         9.3.16.v20170120 | ${jetty.home}/lib/jetty-xml-9.3.16.v20170120.jar
12:         9.3.16.v20170120 | ${jetty.home}/lib/jetty-util-9.3.16.v20170120.jar
13:         9.3.16.v20170120 | ${jetty.home}/lib/jetty-io-9.3.16.v20170120.jar
14:         9.3.16.v20170120 | ${jetty.home}/lib/jetty-jndi-9.3.16.v20170120.jar
15:      1.4.1.v201005082020 | ${jetty.home}/lib/jndi/javax.mail.glassfish-1.4.1.v201005082020.jar
16:                      1.2 | ${jetty.home}/lib/jndi/javax.transaction-api-1.2.jar
17:         9.3.16.v20170120 | ${jetty.home}/lib/jetty-security-9.3.16.v20170120.jar
18:         9.3.16.v20170120 | ${jetty.home}/lib/jetty-servlet-9.3.16.v20170120.jar
19:         9.3.16.v20170120 | ${jetty.home}/lib/jetty-servlets-9.3.16.v20170120.jar
20:         9.3.16.v20170120 | ${jetty.home}/lib/jetty-webapp-9.3.16.v20170120.jar
21:         9.3.16.v20170120 | ${jetty.home}/lib/jetty-deploy-9.3.16.v20170120.jar
22:         9.3.16.v20170120 | ${jetty.home}/lib/jetty-plus-9.3.16.v20170120.jar
23:         9.3.16.v20170120 | ${jetty.home}/lib/jetty-annotations-9.3.16.v20170120.jar
24:                    5.0.1 | ${jetty.home}/lib/annotations/asm-5.0.1.jar
25:                    5.0.1 | ${jetty.home}/lib/annotations/asm-commons-5.0.1.jar
26:                      1.2 | ${jetty.home}/lib/annotations/javax.annotation-api-1.2.jar
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                                            <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0">When I run it using the launcher from Eclipse and interrogate the classpath, it has none of the jetty jars (this is after I've stripped the POM down to only containing jetty-start as a dependency):</p> 
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Version Information on 16 entries in the classpath.
Note: order presented here is how they would appear on the classpath.
      changes to the --module=name command line options will be reflected here.
 0:                    (dir) | /Users/scantor/Documents/workspace/java-identity-provider/idp-conf/src/test/resources
 1:                    (dir) | /Users/scantor/Documents/workspace/java-identity-provider/idp-conf/src/main/resources
 2:    3.10.2.v20150120-1634 | ${jetty.home}/lib/apache-jsp/org.eclipse.jdt.core.compiler.ecj-4.4.2.jar
 3:         9.3.16.v20170120 | ${jetty.home}/lib/apache-jsp/org.eclipse.jetty.apache-jsp-9.3.16.v20170120.jar
 4:                   8.0.33 | ${jetty.home}/lib/apache-jsp/org.mortbay.jasper.apache-el-8.0.33.jar
 5:                      2.3 | ${jetty.home}/lib/apache-jsp/org.mortbay.jasper.apache-jsp-8.0.33.jar
 6:                    1.2.5 | ${jetty.home}/lib/apache-jstl/org.apache.taglibs.taglibs-standard-impl-1.2.5.jar
 7:                    1.2.5 | ${jetty.home}/lib/apache-jstl/org.apache.taglibs.taglibs-standard-spec-1.2.5.jar
 8:                    (dir) | ${jetty.base}/resources
 9:                    3.1.0 | ${jetty.home}/lib/servlet-api-3.1.jar
10:                 3.1.0.M0 | ${jetty.home}/lib/jetty-schemas-3.1.jar
11:      1.4.1.v201005082020 | ${jetty.home}/lib/jndi/javax.mail.glassfish-1.4.1.v201005082020.jar
12:                      1.2 | ${jetty.home}/lib/jndi/javax.transaction-api-1.2.jar
13:                    5.0.1 | ${jetty.home}/lib/annotations/asm-5.0.1.jar
14:                    5.0.1 | ${jetty.home}/lib/annotations/asm-commons-5.0.1.jar
15:                      1.2 | ${jetty.home}/lib/annotations/javax.annotation-api-1.2.jar
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                                            <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0">I think somehow we're invoking start.jar in a way that's blocking it's usual classpath build, and if we could fix that, we would avoid the dependency issues across versions and limit what's in the POM.</p> 
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