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                                            <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0">As I say, I haven't dug into these issues in the past, but I can say unequivocably that not exposing timeouts everywhere is obviously a bug. I'm very diligent about that, so that's how you know I haven't looked.</p> 
                                            <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0">I'm not necessarily saying it's ideal to force people to change things, but that provides people the chance to explicitly set what they want to use too, so it's not all bad. But I can live with forcing some kind of default. Agree I'd be curious what Ian thinks, but it's definitely my understanding that the intent here was for java-support to be leaving it to the IdP.</p> 
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