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<a style='color:#326ca6;text-decoration:none;' href='https://issues.shibboleth.net/jira/browse/IDP-479'><strong>Musing about no back channel installs</strong></a>
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27/Sep/14 6:33 AM
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<p style='margin-top:0;margin-bottom:10px;'>Not a gating issue for V3.</p>
<p style='margin-top:0;margin-bottom:10px;'>I have been thinking about no-backchannel operation and how to install it. We have not comitted to it, but got a steer that some members might appreciate the option.</p>
<p style='margin-top:0;margin-bottom:10px;'>It seems that there are three things needed</p>
<p style='margin-top:0;margin-bottom:10px;'>1) Metadata generation. The code to generate metadata understand at a fundamental level that some endpoints are backchannel. We would just have to wire this into the installer</p>
<p style='margin-top:0;margin-bottom:10px;'>2) Jetty configuration. Tom has an idea I need to chase up:<br/>
<a href="http://shibboleth.net/pipermail/dev/2014-September/005227.html" class="external-link">http://shibboleth.net/pipermail/dev/2014-September/005227.html</a></p>
<p style='margin-top:0;margin-bottom:10px;'>3) Shibboleth configuration. It seems to me that there are two options, the one I thought of first, and the obvious one</p>
<p style='margin-top:0;margin-bottom:10px;'>3a) (the obvious one) At install time, preferentially copy in a relying-party-nobackchannel.xml into relying-party.xml. Then the standard install will not overwrite it with the default one which has the endpoints.</p>
<p style='margin-top:0;margin-bottom:10px;'>3b) Add configuration (potentially into the base beans) such that the injected activation predicate can be controlled by a property. Then export idp.nobackchannel as a property. This has as a minor advantages that it becomes easy for the deployer to change this (but there again this is a life-changing operation, so why should it be easy) and also that we can teach the metadata generator to listen to the property, thus allowing us to pretend that the generation is, if not live, at least zombie-like.</p>
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<a style="color:#326ca6;" href="https://issues.shibboleth.net/jira/browse/IDP">Identity Provider</a>
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2 days
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